I am very often asked by novice what they need to do to find a
Dominant. My first response to them is always: Be Patient. You will find
that in the scene the ratio of submissives to Dominants is greater than
3:1. But not all of those submissives are "good" submissives -
ones that a Dominant would be interested in spending his or her time
with. Your job is to make yourself stand out from the crowd.
This is the first point where patience comes into play. Although you
certainly have to approve of your Dom, you need them to approve of you,
and want to play with you. This won't happen if you pester the Dom, or
make comments like, "I've been on the Net for a week! Come
on!" A Dominant is a Dominant _person_ and you should treat them
with respect and courtesy. Just because they are a Dominant, they are
under no obligation to use their talents in the Dominant arts on you.
Some submissives look for years to find a Dominant with whom they can
have satisfying play. It's much the same as trying to find a compatible
boyfriend or girlfriend, but with the added criterion that the person
must be scene-compatible with you as well. Take your time and be a
little choosy. You will be much more likely to have good scenes with
someone that you are truly compatible and feel comfortable with, then
you would be with the first Dom to come along.
Impatient and pushy submissives don't get very far with Dominants. We
may like brats, but we don't like jerks. If you push too hard we will
simply step to the side and watch you fall on your face. The good
Dominants also talk to each other. Word will get around if a submissive
has a bad reputation; word will also get around if a submissive has a
good reputation. Dominants will also occasionally ask each other for
recommendations on a particular submissive. If you have been a jerk with
one Dominant, it will make it harder for you to be accepted by other
Dominants.
Being patient doesn't mean being a piece of furniture, though. If you
have an interest in a Dominant, try to get to know them. If you see them
in IRC, say hello to them and try to engage them in conversation. Don't
just sit there saying nothing and waiting for them to talk to you, most
likely they won't. Try to find out what title they prefer (Mistress,
Lady, Master, Sir, etc.) and use it. Read their posts well and try to
get a feel for the aspects of the scene that appeal to them. These are
good things to try to engage them in conversation on. Don't immediately
send them a chat/talk request. If after getting to know a Dominant, you
would like to speak privately with them, a polite message of,
"Would you like to chat privately?", is more likely to get you
an acceptance. If they say "no", don't whine about it. We do
not pay our access to the Net just to be available whenever someone
wants to hot chat. Telling a Dominant how horny you are will usually
only get you laughed at. On BBS's, if you see a Dominant that you are
interested in log-on, you may page/message a polite hello, but don't
keep paging them, especially if they are in e- mail. Finally, don't ask
a Mistress what she is wearing. We are so sick of hearing it, that it
has become a joke!
Often I am asked in IRC, via message, to accept someone I just met as
my submissive. If that person has a true interest in being my
submissive, then they can take the time to write me a request for
submission. Some Dominants have a form or questionnaire that they give
to potential submissives, but a sincere letter will usually suffice. It
should describe your interests and desires in at least some detail
("I like submission" doesn't cut it), describe your experience
in the scene, and tell why you are interested in the Dominant that you
are writing to. Spelling and grammar do count. There are two common
mistakes here. First, writing to a Dominant who is not interested in
what you are. Check their posts if in doubt. Second, sending a request
for submission to every Dominant in the Western world. As I said before,
we talk to one another. Be patient and wait to find one Dominant whom
you think would be a good play partner and then write them a sincere
letter. Be patient on a response too. Some Dominants don't bother to
answer unsolicited petitions, but even those that do get a lot of mail.
Don't become discouraged. While you are being patient waiting for the
right Dominant to come along learn about the scene and socialize in it
if possible. Read the newsgroups and FAQ's for information. If you have
questions, post them. If nothing else, it will get you mail. Read scene
related books and magazines, not just to look at the pictures. Go to
scene events, such as the various Fantasy Nights or NLA meetings. By
going to these events you have the opportunity to meet more people in
the scene, or to meet someone in your area that you have talked to
on-line. People that you meet can provide good referrals and
introductions to Dominants.
And remember, the best things are always worth waiting for.
Very truly yours,
Ms. Margo
* This file may be re-posted freely, so long as no part of it is
changed
* including this follower. Written for Fantasy Realization BBS.
* Copyright 1990.
Or, "How do I find a Dom/Dominant/Dominatrix/domme/
Goddess/Mistress/dominant Lady/dominate woman?"
I am asked this question more than any other. At different times
it makes me react in different ways. Sometimes annoyed: Do I *look* like
I have one in my back pocket? Sometimes confused: How exactly do you
think that I can help you? - I don't even know you and I live on the
other side of the country. Sometimes amused: If I knew the answer to
that, I'd be rich! Sometimes sad: I'm sorry, even though you seem like a
really nice person, I just can't help you.
The actual answer to the question is:
It's not easy and you may never find one.
That said, what is it that increases or decreases someone's chances
of finding a Dominant? There are many different factors, and they vary
depending on the Dominant woman, but I'll cover some of the basics. Keep
in mind that some submissives actively look for many years before
finding a Dom with whom they are compatible. You must be willing to be
persistent and patient if you really want to succeed.
*** Numbers ***
Whether it's 1:3 or 1:100, most people agree that there are simply
more submissives than there are Dominant women. These numbers work
against you if you're a submissive, because the competition is strong
for the attentions of those Dominant women who are out there. It's just
like looking for a job. There may be several hundred people sending in
their resumes, and you need yours to stand out from the crowd. Think
about ways that you could make yourself attractive and interesting to a
Dominant woman. If you have no idea how, that's a sign that you need to
get some good books and read and learn, or spend more time in a.s.femdom
reading what Dominant women say, and what they say they want. Ask
questions if you're unsure of something. Posting is also a good way to
let other people see what you're like and become familiar with you. If a
Dom is looking for a new submissive, do you think she'll choose a
complete stranger or someone she already knows? Also, look at ads and
postings from other submissives. Think about what is good or bad in
each. Try not to make the same mistakes.
Put as much effort into your contacts with Dominant women as you
would into a terrific resume. If you're writing letters, spend some time
on them; rewrite them a few times. Check your spelling and grammar. Ask
yourself, "If I got this would I pay any attention to it?" If
not, go back and do it again. Unless you're a professional writer, the
first thing that you write is usually not going to be very good. Put
some time and effort into it. I often get two line e-mails that say
something like, "I am a submissive and I live in Some City. I like
blah, blah, blah." Big deal! If the person can't put more effort
into it than that, I feel that they couldn't have wanted my attention
that badly - next candidate! You don't need to write a book but you
should try to write a half-page to a page about yourself and what your
interests are.
If you're calling a Dom, sit down and write out a short list of what
you want to say to her. Nothing is more boring than sitting on the phone
with someone who doesn't say anything more than, "Yes,
Mistress." and "Uh". If you are casually meeting a Dom in
person, be polite, introduce yourself, make some small talk, and then go
away. Do not give her your complete resume, "My name is Joe, I'm 34
years old, I'm a submissive, I like blah, blah, blah, blah, will you
play with me?" You'll stand out - as a first class jerk.
*** Area ***
Dominant women tend to be free-thinking people. As such, they also
tend to gravitate toward large cities and urban areas. If you're in a
rural area your chances of finding a Dominant woman near you are much
smaller. This leaves you with a few options. You can be very patient and
try to find someone near you (I'm talking *years* of patience here), you
can be willing to travel to a larger city to meet a Dom, you can be
willing to pay or compensate a Dom to come to visit you, or you can
move. New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and London will have
the highest number of visible Dominants per capita, so those are your
best choices. Other large cities are also good. Cities like Washington,
DC may be good or bad, since they are large, but discretion is so
important there. Large cities in the Southern US can also be problematic
for the same reasons.
If you're in an urban area, or near one, find out where the BDSM
people meet. There are often nightclubs that are BDSM oriented, or have
special fetish nights. Most large cities have BDSM social, support
and/or instructional organizations, such as The National Leather
Association (NLA), People Exchanging Power (PEP), The Black Rose, or The
Eulenspeigal Society (TES). Check the alt.sex.femdom FAQ and the
alt.sex.bondage FAQ for addresses. Many BDSM publications also ha ve
very good listings of these groups. If you can find an issue of
"S&M Utopia Guardian" they have very good listings, as
does "Prometheus", published by The Eulenspeigal Society. Go
to these groups not only to socialize, but also to learn. If you improve
your knowledge and skills, you also improve your chances of standing out
from the crowd. Don't go expecting to meet a Dominant woman and take her
home - it won't happen.
If you're in a rural area, or can't join an organization, another
place to look is on local adult bulletin boards. There are literally
thousands of adult BBS's around the country. If you don't know of any in
your area, check out the alt.bbs.* newsgroups, or pick up a copy of a
BBS oriented magazine like "Boardwatch" or "BBS".
The larger adult BBS's usually have advertisements in the back. Since
people on a local BBS will tend to be local people, you increase your
chances of finding someone in your area. Some BBS's also spons or social
get- togethers where you can meet the people that you chat with on-line.
(This is a great idea since, unfortunately, many people on-line are not
exactly as they would have you believe.) You can also try getting a copy
of one of the many BDSM or domination personal ads magazines or
newspapers, but be careful about answering ads that sound too good to be
true - they usually are. Jay Wiseman's book SM101 has an excellent
section about personal ads, and it's recommended reading if you're
thinking about placing or answering a personal ad.
*** Professionals ***
The reality is that it doesn't take a novice Dominant woman long to
realize that she's in demand, and that she can make money as a result of
that demand. Many good (and sometimes bad) Dominants become
professionals. If you're looking for a professional, or you're looking
for an occasional session and you don't mind paying, then you're in
luck! All you need to do to find a Dominant is to pick up a copy of
Domination Directory International (DDI), your local underground
newspaper, or almost any BDSM magazine at your local adult bookstore and
call or write the woman of your choice. Sessions cost between $100 and
$300 US depending on the area and the skill or fame of the woman. Be
sure to work out the financial and other details before the session.
If you're not looking for a professional, then your chances just got
worse. Because a knowledgeable, experienced, or attractive Dominant
woman is likely to be drawn toward professional domination, there are
fewer talented amateurs left. They are out there, though. You can meet
them through organizations, the Net, BBS's, or at social events. Keep in
mind, though, you're going to have to look longer and harder to find a
compatible amateur Dom than you will a professional.
Some Doms are insulted about being asked if they are professional or
not, but most don't mind if you ask discreetly. Myself, I'm proud of my
amateur standing, but I'm also complimented if someone thinks I'm good
enough to be a professional. If the Lady is a professional and you would
like to see her, ask if it's better to call her at a later time to work
out the details. This is especially true if you are a social event or a
party where she might not feel comfortable discussing business. Most
professionals, and some non-professionals, have business cards with
their name and address, and sometimes their phone number. If you know
that a Lady is a professional and you think you might be interested in
seeing her at a later date, ask for her card.
Keep in mind that a professional Dominant is not a prostitute . Do
not expect her to have sex with you, or even allow you "manual
release", just because you are paying her. You are paying for her
time and her skills, just like you would pay your doctor or your
dentist. She is also not your girlfriend. If you come to see her often
you may develop a friendly relationship with her, or you may not. She
likely has lots of other clients and you are just one of them. Remember
that no matter how pleasurable it is, it is still a business
transaction.
* ** Privacy ***
It's unfortunate, but most people need to keep their interests in
female domination private. Most people would prefer that their family,
friends, co-workers, and neighbors didn't know about their interests and
activities. This is just as true for Doms as it is for subs. Your next
door neighbor, the owner of a local store, or the woman at the Post
Office counter might be a Dom and you would never know it. This,
unfortunately, decreases your chances of finding a Dominant woman. There
isn't any special symbol or pin that we wear to let people
"in" on our interests. A woman in high heels and black leather
may be a Dom, or she may just be fashionable. A woman with handcuffs
hanging from her rearview mirror may be into bondage, or they may just
be a gag gift from a friend. Don't assume that a woman is a Dominant
just because she has one of the "symbols" of domination. On
the other hand, don't assume that a woman isn't a Dominant just because
she isn't carrying a whip and barking orders.
"So," you ask, "if I don't know if a woman is a
Dominant, how do I know if she's a Dominant woman?" It seems like a
Catch-22, and it is. You usually can't tell if a woman is Dominant just
by looking at her. One of the best ways to tell if a woman is dominant
is by her attitude. Most sexually Dominant women are not shy wallflowers
(although some are). If you meet an aggressive, assertive woman the
chances are better that she has dominant tendencies. Keep in mind,
though, that she wants her privacy as much as you do. If you ask someone
you don't know very well about intimate parts of their life, chances are
that they are either are going to be angry or are not going to tell you
the truth. If you make a subtle reference and she doesn't seem
interested, don't push.
Dominant women also don't have any sort of Union or network. We don't
all know each other; we don't all communicate. Asking a Dominant woman
if she knows of anyone looking for a submissive in a town on the other
side of the country isn't likely to yield much. First, she's most likely
to know Dominant women in her own area. Second, if she's not extremely
well acquainted with you she's not going to give out private information
about a friend, or even risk embarrassment by referring someone to her
friends who might turn out to be a jerk. If you absolutely must ask,
then give your own information and ask her if she would be willing to
pass it on for you. If you don't hear anything in response, drop the
issue.
If you do find a woman who is a Dominant, keep it to yourself. If you
violate a Dominants desire for privacy not only will she refuse to see
you again, its likely that she'll let everyone she knows hear about your
bad behavior. I heard from a fellow Dom about the bad behavior of a
submissive that she knew casually. He saw her in a popular dance club
and immediately knelt at her feet and began kissing her boots. She was
with a "vanilla" boyfriend and a co-worker at the time and was
very upset at his actions. She has never forgiven him and neither has
anyone else.
*** Looks ***
Dominant women range from ugly to beautiful, just like women in
general. If you have your heart set on meeting a tall, beautiful, blond
Dominant or a buxom, ravishing, redheaded Goddess your chances just got
much smaller. If looks are really that important to your happiness in a
scene be prepared to look for a long time, or be willing to pay a
professional who has the looks that you want. You'll have better luck
finding a Dominant if you concentrate on her personality and skills.
Some of the best Dominant women that I know would never win a beauty
contest, but their assertive attitude, self assurance, and refined
skills are absolutely breathtaking. If she can't, or won't, do the
things that are going to satisfy you it doesn't much matter what she
looks like . Think of it this way: If you're bound, blindfolded, and in
ecstasy, what does it matter what she looks like?
*** Attitude ***
Real Dominant women will not be like the women you see in the
magazines. We are not just dying for a chance to Dom you or anyone else.
We do not want you to drop to your knees and worship us NOW! (for $3.65
a minute). Actually, we usually couldn't care less about what you demand
that we do. If you approach a Dominant woman with a "What can you
do for me?" attitude, you're going to be laughed at. Do-Me Queens
are selfish, controlling, and annoying. If you're pushy, rude, rash, or
overly forward with a Dominant, you will most likely lose the chance to
ever play with her. There are hundreds of submissives out there; she
doesn't need to waste her time with a jerk. Dominant women are not
public utilities. Just because a woman is a Dominant doesn't mean that
she's your Dominant, or that she has any interest at all in playing with
you. If you're just interested in yourself and what you want, please do
us all a favor and go pay a prostitute to play-act with you.
On the opposite hand, if you just sit there like a limp dishrag
you'll never get anything. You may think that sitting quietly with your
head down shows that you're a true submissive. What it really shows is
that you're boring. If you want to meet a Dominant woman, you have to
meet her. If you want to attract her attention, you have to attract her
attention. Strong and submissive are not opposites. If you are very shy
get a friend to introduce you and to hang around to keep the
conversation going, or try writing the Lady a letter. You don't have to
throw yourself at her feet to attract her attention, but you do at least
have to move and talk. If you approach her with the attitude that she
probably won't even notice you and if she does you're not good enough to
be her submissive, chances are that she won't notice you and that if she
does she'll wonder if you're good enough to be her submissive. Act in a
way that gives a Dominant confidence in you and your abilities and
sincerity. Don't forget to smile!
Along with a good attitude, goes honesty. If you overstate yourself,
your looks, your abilities, or your experience, then you are lying to
your Dominant. If you tell the Lady that you are 6'2", very
attractive, and athletic, when you're really 5'10", average
looking, and a couch potato she's certainly going to notice the first
time she meets you. The relationship might well end right there. If
you're not a corporate executive, don't say so. Being a programmer or
working in a bank is honest work - don't be ashamed of what you do.
Especially, don't try to make yourself seem more experienced or more
knowledgeable in the scene than you really are. It's foolish, dangerous,
and disappointing. There is no shame in being a novice.
I saw a submissive at a play party tell a serious Dominant that he
liked heavy pain and she took him at his word. They agreed to play and
he called safeword after the second stroke. She immediately asked what
was wrong and he said, "That hurt!" She reminded him that he
had said that he liked pain and his reply was that he didn't realize it
would hurt so much in real life! As funny as the story is, no one would
play with him again.
*** Timing ***
Sometimes you just have the bad luck to approach a Dominant at a time
that she doesn't need or want a new submissive. Some Doms acquire new
submissives every few weeks, some only take a new submissive once a
decade. If a Dom has made it clear that she isn't looking for a
submissive, don't be a fool by offering your immediate services. You may
want to send a short letter to let her know that you are looking for a
Dominant and would be very happy for her to keep you in mind if she
knows of any future openings. A lack of a reply means the same thing as
" No". Don't send follow-up letters whining that you haven't
gotten an answer from her. Not answered means not interested .
Don't be rude to a Dominant just because she said "No" to
you. You should take your "No"s politely and cheerfully and
keep in good standing with the Lady. A short note thanking her for her
time and consideration and asking that she keep you in mind for the
future is a nice touch. (If you're very brave you can even ask the
reason that she turned you down, but do this only if you're prepared for
an honest answer that could hurt your feelings.) There are many
submissives that I've had to say "No" to because the timing
wasn't right, but some have stayed in occasional polite contact (polite
is the key word here!), and if I ever wanted a new submissive those
would be the people I would think of first. If you have the patience to
wait until the timing is right, you will increase your chances of
finding a Dom.
*** Building Your Own ***
In the true spirit of DIY, many submissives beat the odds of finding
a Dominant by making their own. This isn't easy. Your first few projects
may fail miserably and you may lose faith, but it is possible - and when
it does work its a great solution. What you need is an open-minded woman
who has some dominant tendencies. You help her to develop those
tendencies and teach her how to be the Dom that you've always wanted.
The woman can be your wife, your girlfriend, or a female sex-buddy.
Unfortunately, the process takes years of hard work and there are always
setbacks.
If you want to undertake to make your own Dom you need to have a
long, slow plan in mind. You can't just hit someone with a lot at once -
they'll freak out. Start very slowly. Add mild domination play to your
normal sex life. Have her playfully spank you for " being
bad". Buy her some leather lingerie that flatters her figure. Tell
her you want to be her "love slave" and kiss her body all
over. Let her know that you've always wanted to try sex "tied
up". Keep it light and keep the focus on her. If she's not happy,
you won't succeed. Buy her a copy of Lady Green's "The Sexually
Dominant Woman: A Workbook for Nervous Beginners". It's very, very
friendly and is excellent for a novice Dominant.
Be reassuring. She most likely has been told all her life that this
is sick and kinky. Let her know that it's fun. Let her know that this is
for her too. Let her know that she's in control and can stop any time
she wants. Show her this newsgroup so that she doesn't feel as if she's
alone in her interests. If you think that that's too much for her, print
out selected postings for her that validate her feelings. Heavy S& M
porn or low budget D&S magazines will usually turn a woman off.
Think before you expose her to something that may freak her out. Once
you've done it, you can't take it back. Keep the lines of communication
open. If something seems to be upsetting her, don't just blow it off -
honestly talk about it.
Pay attention to those things that seem to interest her the most. Be
sure to explore those things that she would like to try, even if they
don't appeal to you at first. If someone were asking you to do things
that didn't appeal to you, you would quickly lose interest. Exploring
together can be thrilling; always fulfilling someone else's demands can
be demeaning. Expect that things may go along very well for while and
then she may refuse to have anything to do with domination. Guilt and
bad feelings are very strong. Don't push. Keep talking honestly and
communicating openly. Try to ease any bad feelings, but don't promise
what you really can't give. Many submissives promise to give up their
interests in domination in order to keep the relationships happy - we
all know that it never works for long.
If you are patient (and lucky), you can end up with the Dom of your
dreams without having to even leave your own home. Never, ever,
underestimate the gem that you now have in your hands. If you do, she
will likely take her new-found skills to someone else's hands.
*** What will happen when you finally have a Dominant? ***
What!? Do you expect me to spoil all the fun? Never! :) Now go and
play...
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* This file may be freely copied to other systems so long as it remains
intact with this message attached. Written by Ms. Margo, July 1995, for
alt.sex.femdom.
On Petitions...
Or, How do I get a Mistress to accept my petition?
by Ms. Margo (margo@netcom.com) I receive constant petitions to take on submissives for training.
Most of the petitions that I receive are sorry indeed. Would you really
like to write a petition that will be accepted? Good.
This will be lesson one.
There are many, many more submissive men than there are Dominant
women. I receive 3-5 letters a week from men wanting to be my
submissive. What is it about you that would make me want to spend time
writing to you, talking to you, or being with you? You have to impress a
Dominant with what it is that you are and what it is that you want the
very first time that you write to her. "The scene" has so many
aspects that no two people are guaranteed to be a good match. A good
Dominant knows that. She won't waste time on someone who doesn't appear
to be suitable to her. You should, at the very least, have thoroughly
read her registry to see what she likes and what she doesn't. When you
write to a Dominant, the letter should be well thought out and
reasonably lengthily. I know one Dominant woman who sends out a 20 page
questionnaire to prospective submissives, but a half page to a page
should be enough. Write a letter, set it aside. Come back to it the next
day and re-read it. Think about how you would respond if you received
that letter. Be careful about its writing. Spelling and grammar *do*
count. Be respectful in your letter. I teach my submissives to write
lower case "i" and uppercase "You" - as in,
"Mistress, i would very much like to be helpful to You." You
don't have to do this, but it's a nice touch. Always remember to
capitalize their name and title. Try to find out what title a Dominant
prefers - ask around - if in doubt use Ms. or Mistress.
Tell a Dominant as much about yourself as you can. Not that you have
blond hair and green eyes, but what your experiences have been and what
you would like to experience. As a novice, you may not have had many
experiences. So tell the Dominant what inhabits your fantasies. If you
dream of being securely bound with silk stockings and beaten with a
feather duster, say so. If you long to be dressed as a woman and taken
shopping at the K-Mart, let her know. If when you were 7 you loved to be
tied up playing Cowboys and Indians, then tell the story. Telling
someone that you are a "submissive" tells them nothing. You
wouldn't be writing to a Dominant woman if you weren't. Think for a
moment about what appeals to you - a favorite story, a beloved picture,
a treasured fantasy. You heart will lead you in the direction that you
would like to explore. Don't worry about what it is that draws you. You
are *never* the first person to have been interested in a particular
kink. Over time you will want to explore new things. Some things which
originally appealed to you may not hold a fascination for you in the
future. A good Dominant will be open and accepting; she will not tell
you that you're "sick." She also will keep your correspondence
private.
Let a Dominant know what you can do for them. Dominant women are not
a public utility. You want them to spend their time and effort on you.
What can you do for them in return? Your letter should be very clear
about the sorts of things that you can do for them. Are you good dinner
company? Do you do carpentry? Can you baby-sit her cat? Are you the
world's best boot polisher? Are you a leather fetishist who would love
to Lexol all her toys? The possibilities are endless. Pick a few things
that you're good at *and* that you are willing to do, and put that in
your letter. Be sure that you are really willing to it. I have a friend
who says, "They always say 'Oh Mistress, I'll do anything for you'
until I tell them to clean the catbox."
And lastly, have some discretion. If you pledge your eternal slavery
to someone that you have never met, or even chatted with on-line, how
would you expect her to react? Let her know why it is that you are
writing to *her*: you heard good things about her, you liked her
registry, you were impressed with a post she wrote, you saw her at an
event and have dreamed of her ever since. Don't try the shotgun approach
- writing to every Dominant female in the Western world. Many of the
Mistress on-line are friends, and someone who petitions everything that
moves will soon get a bad reputation. Don't waste your time, and the
Dominant's, by writing to someone who isn't into what you are. If she's
not into spanking and it's your number one turn-on, then neither of you
will get what you want out of the relationship. Also, be clear about
your expectations of sex. If you want your scenes to include orgasm, or
you're looking to give sexual service, say so. The same holds true if
you are not willing to give sexual service, or are not expecting it. Be
as honest as you can be. If you have a wife or girlfriend and need to
keep your activities private, that's important for your potential
Mistress to know.
Lastly, take your "No, thank you"s gracefully. There are a
lot of reasons why a Dominant might decline your offer. Remember that
she might be looking for someone in the future, or may know another
Dominant who is looking for someone, and you would like to be that
someone. If you're feeling brave you might politely ask why she said no,
so you can write even better petitions in the future. Keep trying, and
refining your skills every time you do try. Eventually, you *will*
succeed!
Very truly yours, Ms. Margo
* This file may be freely copied so long as it remains
intact with this
* message attached. Written for Fantasy Realization BBS. Copyright,
* January, 1993. By Ms. Margo.
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