Sunday, June 20, 2010
Living with Reality
Class Notes 06/20/2010
[CJsHere] 9:07
pm: g'evening all.. round and round we go, where we stop,
nobody knows.. tic, tic, tic, tic, tic tic... tic,,,,,,, tic,,,,,
tic.....................tic,, ahhh, there it is,, tonights topic!
[CJsHere] 9:07 pm: seems we have some new faces
here this evening, so to those I haven't had a chance to chat with
much, good evening and welcome,,,,
[CJsHere] 9:09 pm: if you haven't sat thru one of our
classes or topics before, rules are simple.. your participation is
encouraged! Ask questions, make comments, add to the discussion,
just please keep it related to the topic.. no, don't ask to leave,
if you have to go. go.. if you get knocked offline, just come back
in quietly.. and with that, let's see if we can get this show on the
road.
[CJsHere] 9:10
pm: It seems there are many different versions of this
lifestyle. sure, they all have some things in common, but one thing
that is definitely in common to all of them is "reality".
[CJsHere] 9:11 pm: it seems no matter what we
do, we can't escape the fact that reality happens, whether it's the
kids, the neighbors, the family dog, bills, oversleeping,, reality
seems to hit us square in the face.
[CJsHere] 9:12 pm: Seems like most girls I talk to have this
perception of themselves that they're super human (about like the
Doms) they can do anything, any time,, all Sir has to say is
"jump"..
[CJsHere] 9:13
pm: The online world has this thing,, seems a sub/slave
never gets sick, can always do the chores or tasks they're assigned,
and yes, they always seem to look beautiful.. if you don't think so,
just ask em.
[CJsHere] 9:14
pm: but, when we take that step to reality, it seems
something happens,, suddenly that same girl has her cranky moments,
maybe the dishes didn't get done today.. she seems to not get her
hair done just so.. and oh My God,, she didn't iron that blouse
today..
[CJsHere] 9:15
pm: Well, the first thing a Dom is going to do is pop up
and say "you need to work on time management".. uh huh, tell that to
the screaming baby at 3am, time management dear, ain't time to
scream yet..
[higherpowered]
9:15 pm: LOL
[goodgirl_MA]
9:15 pm: falls off chair laughing
[CJsHere] 9:16
pm: again, it seems like life happens,,, and always at
the wrong moment,, but, do we need to consider these things when we
live this lifestyle 24/7?
[CJsHere] 9:16
pm: or, do we put our blinders on and just avoid the
subject?
[CJsHere] 9:16
pm: Is it okay for a girl to have PMS?
[CJsHere] 9:17
pm: Is it okay for a Dom "to have a bad day"?
[Ladyoliver]
9:17 pm: lol
[brite-] 9:17
pm: Sir we have to deal with life
[CJsHere] 9:17
pm: uh huh, we have to deal with it,,
[WinterBorn]
9:17 pm: just wish My opinion on that actually would make
a lick of difference to the fact............
[CJsHere] 9:17
pm: can a Dom do the dishes?
[goodgirl_MA]
9:17 pm: lol
[dedeedum] 9:17
pm: have to make certain exceptions i think Sir
[Master_Anthony]
9:17 pm: believes no matter what lifestyle u deal with
real life
[goodgirl_MA]
9:17 pm: yes Sir
[babydoll0629]
9:17 pm: yes Sir
[gigifaye] 9:18
pm: yes Sir
[brite-] 9:18
pm: yes Sir he can
[CJsHere] 9:18
pm: what??? Me, do dishes? you need your head
examined?????
[fire_AsjFG]
9:18 pm: giggles
[brite-] 9:18
pm: lol
[CJsHere] 9:18
pm: next thing you'll tell Me as a Dom, I might need to
get up and feed that baby,,,,
[goodgirl_MA]
9:18 pm: giggles
[brite-] 9:18
pm: and change a diaper ;)
[babydoll0629]
9:19 pm: coughs
[WinterBorn]
9:19 pm: oh ok CJ, if it comes up someday, I'll take the
dishes and do the baby feeding...... You've got diaper duty though
[Master_Anthony]
9:19 pm: or 2 or 3 diapers
[WinterBorn]
9:19 pm: lol Wwe're triplets
[dedeedum] 9:19
pm: dont forget bathing the baby
[CJsHere] 9:19
pm: whether we're a Dom,, a sub, slave, or the family
housekeeper, we need to consider what is going on around us,,, we
need to look to the best interest of the "family".. yes, I consider
any D/s couple, whether mono, or poly as a family unit.
[brite-] 9:20
pm: nods
[goodgirl_MA]
9:20 pm: agrees
[CJsHere] 9:20
pm: sometimes, we need to look at the fact that reality
is going to just about force us into situations that the "books
says" ain't our role.
[CJsHere] 9:20
pm: Yes, the Dom may get stuck with the dishes, and guess
what girl, you may just have to make up your mind and decide what
gets cooked for dinner.
[CJsHere] 9:21
pm: sure, it sounds good, make out a task list uh huh,
slave does the dishes,, period,, Master decides what gets fixed for
dinner, dinner promptly at 6:05,,
[CJsHere] 9:21
pm: and it all goes great,,, until.... and that until
list is a long one..
[CJsHere] 9:22 pm: when we are forced to deal
with reality, does that mean we're topping from the bottom, or as a
dominant, that we've fallen in and not living up to our
responsibilities?
[goodgirl_MA]
9:22 pm: no Sir it does not
[RB0629] 9:23
pm: No
[goodgirl_MA]
9:23 pm: it means Your dedicated to Your family
[CJsHere] 9:23
pm: or even more simply put, it means,, "sh it happens"
[brite-] 9:23
pm: giggles
[goodgirl_MA]
9:23 pm: giggles
[CJsHere] 9:24 pm: that ladies and gentlemen is
a fact of life, learn to deal with it, and when you set up the
goals, the guidelines, the rules for your relationship, consider
that from the get go.
[CJsHere] 9:24
pm: Now, let's twist the tables just a bit, dealing with
that same reality,,
[goodgirl_MA]
9:26 pm: listens
[CJsHere] 9:26
pm: Johnny and mary are the perfect Dom/sub couple. and
yes they tend to add a bit of kink to their life every now and
then,, why not, they live alone and they enjoy it, nothing to worry
about. she prances about nude (as she's told to do) He bends her
over the table from time to time and enjoys,,, heck, they both
enjoy,, and when she doesn't shine the floor just right, she gets a
few swats and a toothbrush to take care of it,
[CJsHere] 9:27
pm: hmm, that description pretty much fits all of us,
right? hmm, well, maybe not quite..
[goodgirl_MA]
9:27 pm: lol
[fire_AsjFG]
9:27 pm: :rolleyes:
[gigifaye] 9:27
pm: lol
[CJsHere] 9:28 pm: now there's Dave and sally,,
another D/s couple, but they tend to have to deal with reality, you
see, they've got three kids, a nosey neighbor, and a mother-in-law
that thinks she lives with them,, they too like to enjoy some kink
once in awhile.. but, between mom, kids, the dog and the neighbor,
how do they do it?
[goodgirl_MA]
9:29 pm: very carefully
[WinterBorn]
9:29 pm: set the cell phones to vibe at
3am, hope the kiddos haven't had a bad dream, and make it
quick and quiet
[gigifaye] 9:29
pm: careful planning
[RB0629] 9:29
pm: Timing is everything
[CJsHere] 9:29
pm: sure, they use a bit of care, or read that
"discretion".. but can that kink still happen? or are the ruined for
life, or til the kids reach 18?
[brite-] 9:30
pm: kids at school and lunch time
[velvetvixen]
9:30 pm: No Sir
[babydoll0629]
9:30 pm: before the age of 3 and after the kids are out
of the house
[goodgirl_MA]
9:30 pm: lol
[CJsHere] 9:30
pm: no, perhaps the girl running around the house 24/7
nude is no longer practical.. but, yes, there can still be "some
times" that that might fit,
[brite-] 9:31
pm: as the saying goes, where there's a will there is a
way
[velvetvixen]
9:31 pm: hire a babysitter
[goodgirl_MA]
9:31 pm: yes Sir
[brite-] 9:31
pm: just takes more work and planning so to speak
[CJsHere] 9:31 pm: no, I don't condone any Dom
punishing a sub/slave in front of children but yes, that punishment
can still happen when appropriate..
[WinterBorn]
9:31 pm: or "no one "has time" but some choose to 'make
time'"
[new_seeking]
9:32 pm: but, the more work Y/you put into it, the more
appreciative E/everyone will be with it, too
[RB0629] 9:32
pm: You use the time available....and creativity helps a
lot as well
[brite-] 9:32
pm: but i t does take lots of communication and both
parties working in the same direction
[CJsHere] 9:32
pm: so, let's look at that second couple a moment,
there's mom, sitting at the table with the neighbor, kids are
running thru the house. and she does something wrong. how does the
Dom go about punishing her?
[CJsHere] 9:32
pm: it ain't gonna work to tell the kids go to your room,
your mother needs her tush beat,,
[brite-] 9:32
pm: looks and she knows ..........
[new_seeking]
9:32 pm: "The Look"
[velvetvixen]
9:32 pm: The look
[babydoll0629]
9:32 pm: the LOOK
[brite-] 9:33
pm: i touch or hand sign
[new_seeking]
9:33 pm: lol
[CJsHere] 9:33
pm: how can He handle that, ?? some ideas,, and let's go
beyond "the look", we all know that works,
[WinterBorn]
9:33 pm: the "eye" and a whispered decision of what is to
happpen when it's possible?
[fire_AsjFG]
9:33 pm: agrees...and she will know it is coming later
[goodboy_LO]
9:33 pm: code words
[dedeedum] 9:33
pm: yes, i agree with Sir Wb
[goodgirl_MA]
9:33 pm: ask her to see her in the back for a moment and
punish her
[brite-] 9:33
pm: all the above ;)
[dedeedum] 9:33
pm: dont think that would really work gg
[goodgirl_MA]
9:34 pm: lol
[brite-] 9:34
pm: not to gg's though
[goodgirl_MA]
9:34 pm: it does with me
[brite-] 9:34
pm: that one is hard to pull off
[CJsHere] 9:34
pm: anybody ever watch "I Love Lucy".. Oh lootcy, can I
see you in the kitchen a moment?
[brite-] 9:34
pm: kids come in with out notice
[goodgirl_MA]
9:34 pm: thats what i said
[dedeedum] 9:34
pm: must be a short punishment..
[RB0629] 9:34
pm: A text message works well too
[brite-] 9:34
pm: mom in law walks in without notice
[goodgirl_MA]
9:34 pm: and not when ya got locks, yes but short does
not mean ineffective
[velvetvixen]
9:34 pm: email
[WinterBorn]
9:35 pm: likes text message, thanks for great idea RB
[Ladyoliver]
9:35 pm: more tasks to keep him physically busy, giving
him time to think of his error
[CJsHere] 9:35
pm: in many situations, it's easy to "excuse yourselves
for a brief moment".. no, some it's not. but many times that will
work, excuse yourselves,, "honey, you blew it,, I don't want that
done again, we'll deal with it later this afternoon". and back to
chatting with mom.
[dedeedum] 9:36
pm: ya that seems good Sir
[brite-] 9:36
pm: yes Sir but in my opinion that is just a preamble not
really punishment
[WinterBorn]
9:36 pm: controversial, but, the 'cold shoulder' til
further punishment is practical is worth discussion I think
[WinterBorn]
9:37 pm: aka 'the silent treatment'
[goodgirl_MA]
9:38 pm: if Master Anthony did that i would make the
freind or whoever leave and recieve my punishment so the person here
would not feel the awkward tension
[dedeedum] 9:38
pm: i think that might not be practical in many
situations either though Sir WB
[CJsHere] 9:38
pm: I think you can see from the comments everyone is
throwing out.. a bit of imagination, some creativity, some
communication with each other, and a lot of ways can be "found" to
let each other know what is going on... no, you may not always be
able to implement that punishment "on the spot".. but trust Me, if
your girl is trained properly, the anticipation of what is
forthcoming will hurt worse than any taws or belt.
[brite-] 9:38
pm: would have had my mom going "what the heck is going
on" Sir
[WinterBorn]
9:38 pm: true, both of you, not for all situations, but,
some situations, some couples
[CJsHere] 9:38
pm: not to pick on gg's point, but, I'd like to touch on
that for a bit,,
[goodgirl_MA]
9:39 pm: Yes Sir
[CJsHere] 9:40 pm: suppose you've got a house
full of guests,, the Dom is having a party, all is going well, he's
really going head over heels, pleased with all his work associates
there,,, now, you screw up.. big or small. you do something
wrong,,,,,,,, you’re gonna chase every one off so you can get your
tush beat?
[CJsHere] 9:40
pm: not gonna happen!!
[goodgirl_MA]
9:40 pm: only if it was one person Sir
[goodgirl_MA]
9:40 pm: not a group
[CJsHere] 9:40
pm: remember, we said real life, shit happens,,
[CJsHere] 9:40
pm: even if it was one person? why would you run them
off?
[goodgirl_MA]
9:40 pm: Yes Sir, but we were saying the girl had a
friend over
[goodgirl_MA]
9:41 pm: Yes Sir i would, and i have
[CJsHere] 9:41 pm: sure, if it was something
your Dom decided was appropriate to send people home, then by God,
do it, but otherwise,, all I can say is, you're in a fantasy world.
[goodgirl_MA]
9:41 pm: huh
[CJsHere] 9:42
pm: now what you've done is you've called attention to
yourself, that friend that suddenly got run off is going to wonder,
what in hell was that all about? what kind of kinky stuff are they
into? who does He think He is being able to have her run people
off.??
[goodgirl_MA]
9:42 pm: thats true
[CJsHere] 9:42
pm: no, I would tell you, to run someone off because
you've made a blunder? nope, that's not reality..
[new_seeking]
9:43 pm: Sir CJ....sometimes does a sub push the limits
to test the Dom?
[CJsHere] 9:43
pm: again, if the Dom thinks it's bad enough to warrant
that, then that is his decision to make, but for you to suddenly
ruin the day for him, you and your visitors? nah, that shouldn’t
happen,
[CJsHere] 9:43
pm: nods to seeking, I have NEVER met a girl yet, that
hasn't tested her Dom, again, that's real life,,
[CJsHere] 9:44 pm: no, maybe one in 10 will
admit to it,, but again, the reality, it's going to happen,
sometimes, not even consciously.
[brite-] 9:44
pm: Sir, doesn't it amount to about the same as a child
pushing their limits
[CJsHere] 9:44 pm: Doms know it, the girls know
it,, but again, remember it's easy for that "testing" to border on,
or even turn into Topping from the bottom, so watch it,,
[CJsHere] 9:44
pm: that "testing" can also impact on trust, so watch
that as well.
[CJsHere] 9:45
pm: make sense?
[brite-] 9:45
pm: yes Sir
[new_seeking]
9:45 pm: yes Sir
[babydoll0629]
9:45 pm: yes Sir
[WinterBorn] 9:45 pm: errm, if I may, that
scenario, ties in to the "cold shoulder", for gothie and I, no, we
haven't been together in real life (:() but, I know without doubt,
there could be subtle discreet touches that then didn't happen, and
no one else would know, but, she'd be fighting desperately to keep
in the tears
[sheila] 9:45
pm: yes Sir
[CJsHere] 9:46
pm: yes brite, many of the behaviors, especially of a
novice sub/slave can be directly correlated to that of a small child
and her parent
[CJsHere] 9:46
pm: is that wrong?
[brite-] 9:46
pm: no its to help them learn
[CJsHere] 9:46
pm: no, it just coincidentally resembles a learning
process.
[CJsHere] 9:47
pm: Let's look at another factor of "reality" for a
moment,,,
[CJsHere] 9:47
pm: here we have a novice sub/slave. and damn , this girl
is learning !! oh, she's briliant (and got great legs too)..
[CJsHere] 9:48
pm: everything she's told, she picks it right up. she
does her best to please, and things continue on for a few weeks this
way, oh it's heaven I tell you, she's a great sub/slave.... and
then,
[CJsHere] 9:49 pm: wait a moment, all of a
sudden, the girl seems to flat line out............. no matter what
I do, I just can't seem to get her to the next task to learn,,,, I
try, and she just remains steady,,, am I doing something wrong?
[CJsHere] 9:49
pm: any ideas?
[goodgirl_MA]
9:49 pm: show her if she dont do it she will not like the
consequences
[goodboy_LO]
9:49 pm: Over load set in quickly?
[WinterBorn]
9:50 pm: talk about what happened
[CJsHere] 9:50
pm: she learned great.. motivated, excelled,, go go go..
[brite-] 9:50 pm: maybe she just needs time to
get her self use to all the new things that even though learned are
hard to keep track of
[CJsHere] 9:50
pm: then zippity do dah,
[goodgirl_MA]
9:50 pm: she is not motivated enough
[cecesub] 9:50
pm: sounds like it is time for communication
[CJsHere] 9:50
pm: any shcool teachers here this evening?
[cecesub] 9:50
pm: figure out what is going on with her
[Ladyoliver]
9:50 pm: Ask her what she wants out of this
[CJsHere] 9:50
pm: I know we've got some on the site, lily, faith, who
else?
[fire_AsjFG]
9:51 pm: maybe overload...meltdown?
[WinterBorn]
9:51 pm: maybe she expected to find fulfillment in
pleasing the Master/Dom/me, and that pleasure was not communicated
[goodboy_LO]
9:51 pm: to much praise. she doesn't feel controled
enough
[brite-] 9:51
pm: think start with a long talk
[goodgirl_MA]
9:51 pm: not enough motivation
[Ladyoliver]
9:51 pm: I made gb write about what it looks like to be a
good slave when he flat lined
[CJsHere] 9:51
pm: nothing wrong with what is happening, it's a normal
learning curve.. humans all tend to do some very common things,,,,,
and one of them is,,
[fire_AsjFG]
9:51 pm: plateau
[CJsHere] 9:51
pm: we learn,, then we seem to reach a plateau, perhaps
even regressing slightly, then we start up again,,
[goodboy_LO]
9:51 pm: Thank you for that Mistress
[Ladyoliver]
9:52 pm: it bounced him back up
[goodgirl_MA]
9:52 pm: so You should just be patient Sir?
[CJsHere] 9:52 pm: it's just like a child,, the
child learns from birth to about age 6 or 7, then slows down a bit,
then has a spurt and takes off again,, it's normal.
[anaka_CAS]
9:53 pm: whispers... it’s the same in dog obedience
training as well...
[CJsHere] 9:53 pm: the same things goes in
teaching, or learning about this lifestyle,,, we all reach a point
that we level off for a bit,, our mind has taken in a bunch, we
essentially need a break, need time to digest it, to reason it out
within our minds,
[brite-] 9:53
pm: so reflection, talking , communication, adjustment ,
then step it up again?
[CJsHere] 9:54
pm: don't panic, don't toss the girl in the trash, don't
berate Yourself,, all is normal..
[goodgirl_MA]
9:55 pm: so its like you are re-raising them?
[CJsHere] 9:55 pm: Many times we wont even
realize this is happening, the Dom will suddenly think, this girl
needs her tush beat,, and the reality, she's doing just what God
intended her to do. and sorry, don't know too many Dom's that want
to mess with the big G..
[new_seeking] 9:55 pm: Sir....it kind of sounds
like the newlyweds that suddenly find themselves in trouble at the
one year anniversary....all the newness has worn off....
[CJsHere] 9:55
pm: nods, a bit different, but yes, along the same lines,
they've reached a plateau,
[CJsHere] 9:56
pm: what are some ways we can use to spot this plateau?
[CJsHere] 9:56
pm: waits for the one word answer,,
[CJsHere] 9:56
pm: (no, not communication)
[goodgirl_MA]
9:56 pm: actions
[goodgirl_MA]
9:56 pm: energy
[brite-] 9:56
pm: observation
[WinterBorn]
9:56 pm: results
[fire_AsjFG]
9:56 pm: frustration
[CJsHere] 9:56
pm: no, not actions, velvet, tell em what the word is,,
begins with J.
[CJsHere] 9:56
pm: the thing you love so dearly .. lol.
[WinterBorn]
9:56 pm: lol.........
[new_seeking]
9:57 pm: jump boat?!
[fire_AsjFG]
9:57 pm: ahhh
[new_seeking]
9:57 pm: lol
[RB0629] 9:57
pm: lol
[velvetvixen]
9:57 pm: Journaling
[fire_AsjFG]
9:57 pm: laughs
[velvetvixen]
9:57 pm: I'm not allowed to say that word
[CJsHere] 9:57
pm: nods,, Journaling,
[brite-] 9:57
pm: lol
[goodgirl_MA]
9:57 pm: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh a jornal???
[CJsHere] 9:57
pm: that journal is going to help.. a lot.. IF you're
using it as you should use it,
[CJsHere] 9:58
pm: remember, you just don't write in your journal and
toss it away, there are some things that have to be followed up on
in that journal.
[goodgirl_MA]
9:58 pm: Sir, how often should a sub/slave write in there
journal?
[new_seeking]
9:58 pm: thinks some Doms need to take a class on how to
USE a journel
[brite-] 9:58
pm: agrees with seeking
[WinterBorn]
9:58 pm: thinks that's a great topic for a class sometime
[CJsHere] 9:59 pm: from the Dom's perspective,,
if He's reading it, AND going back and reviewing previous entries,
He's going to easily spot that plateau, it's going to be obvious..
he may not recognize it as a plateau, but he'll be able to spot,
"something is different".
[velvetvixen]
9:59 pm: journals are highly over rated.
[higherpowered]
10:00 pm: Journaling really help me get in touch with how
I feel
[CJsHere] 10:00
pm: the same thing holds true for the girl.. if she's
reviewing her journal, she's going to spot, "something is
different".. while she may not know or realize the cause,, if she's
journaling properly, when she spots that issue, now the big C word
comes into play,, Communications, it's time to talk with someone,
talk about what they see, how to overcome it.
[CJsHere] 10:00
pm: and ya know what,, reality check, a journal can be
done.. daily, without a problem,, and don't give Me excuses that you
don't have time, that's a crock,
[velvetvixen] 10:01
pm: laughs
[CJsHere] 10:01
pm: I've seen girls write their journal entries on scrap
paper, napkins in a restaurant, all kinds of different places to be
transcribed to their "actual journal" at a later time.
[goodgirl_MA] 10:02
pm: what exctally does a girl put in her journal?
[CJsHere] 10:02
pm: and Dom's.. I don't even want to think about the
idea,, "that's the girls job to write".. "as long as she's doing it,
I'm happy"..
[CJsHere] 10:02
pm: I'll save the contents or how to write a journal for
another night, as that can fill a couple of hours all by itself.
[goodgirl_MA] 10:02
pm: :) Yes Sir
[CJsHere] 10:03
pm: Okay, a quick recap. any questions on anything I've
covered so far?
[new_seeking] 10:03
pm: Sir....this girl could use that info too....the
contents
[new_seeking] 10:03
pm: another time
[goodgirl_MA] 10:03
pm: has no questions so far
[WinterBorn] 10:03
pm: seems fairly straightforward thus far
[CJsHere] 10:04 pm: reality, reality, reality,,
while this lifestyle brings a lot of fantasy's to mind, don't ever
forget, reality is there, and it is reality and how we deal with it
that will make or break any D/s relationship.. Don't try to push
reality aside, learn to accept and to deal with it.
[sheila] 10:04
pm: raises her hand with a question
[CJsHere] 10:05
pm: kids, they are a fact of life, don't try to shove
them out of your life to make way for D/s... By the same token, you
don't have to push D/s off into the future, waiting for the kids to
reach 21 before you can be what you are...
[CJsHere] 10:05
pm: a quick bit of light humor for a moment,, anyone not
know what a penior is?
[goodgirl_MA] 10:05
pm: i dont Sir
[higherpowered] 10:05
pm: I dont
[fire_AsjFG] 10:05
pm: lol yes Master
[CJsHere] 10:06
pm: essentially, a penior is a very classy piece of
women's lingere..
[brite-] 10:06
pm: as in nite gown?
[CJsHere] 10:06
pm: usually, it has a house coat of sorts to go with it,,
and no, it's not always in the category of a teddy,, but yes, an
evening gown,,
[goodgirl_MA] 10:06
pm: listens
[CJsHere] 10:07
pm: well, I happen to know a girl. that is a slave.. and
yes, her children, while they didn't (at the time anyway) know what
it means/meant to be a slave.. they had their ideas,,
[CJsHere] 10:08 pm: well, this black penior,
lace trimmed, very nice, and not something a girl couldn't answer
the door in so to speak,, one day,,,,, the son, then about oh, I'd
guess ten years old, made a discovery.
[goodgirl_MA] 10:08
pm: sits on edge of chair
[CJsHere] 10:09 pm: mom had said son go get
something out of the dryer,,, the son, went to fetch the item,,
but,, when he returned,,, Mom, see, I knew it,, I knew it,, you're a
slave, and I can prove it, here's your slave outfit,,
[CJsHere] 10:09
pm: hmm, guess ya had to be there,
[brite-] 10:09
pm: lol
[fire_AsjFG] 10:09
pm: lol
[babydoll0629]
10:09 pm: ut oh
[goodgirl_MA] 10:09
pm: is ROFL
[Lenwe*s_aja]
10:09 pm: this is a pic of a penior
http://www.nightofjoyvintage.com/sc_images/products/464_large_image.jpg
[CJsHere] 10:10
pm: children in homes that practice this lifestyle aren't
stupid, they are going to have their own perceptions, based on
little bits they pick up here and there.. sure, some of them may be
right on, some may be pretty far fetched,,
[brite-] 10:10
pm: for sure Sir
[fire_AsjFG] 10:10
pm: rut roh
[CJsHere] 10:10
pm: sooner or later, get ready for it, you're going to
find yourself in a situation of having to deal with that reality..
so, be ready for it,,
[goodgirl_MA] 10:10
pm: oh boy
[CJsHere] 10:11
pm: you're not always going to be able to just say, billy,
you're nuts, mommy and daddy don't do that..
[brite-] 10:11
pm: was years before i new what a key party was
[brite-] 10:11
pm: but heard mom and dad talking about them lol
[WinterBorn] 10:12
pm: lmao brite
[brite-] 10:12
pm: :whistle:
[CJsHere] 10:12 pm: I won't start talking this
evening about what to tell them, what not to tell them, there are
some pages on the site that talk about that, but, I will point out,
children are another one of those realities you'll have to deal with
sooner or later, just like the neighbors, just like family friends,
how you deal with these realities will make or break your
relationship.
[Lenwe*s_aja]
10:12 pm: ~nods~
[RB0629] 10:13
pm: agrees
[CJsHere] 10:13
pm: Okay, I'm looking to the clock, looks like we've gone
about our hour.. I'll ask if there are any questions, then, I'll
share one more humorous "reality story".. one I think many will get
a chuckle out of.. so bear with Me, but first, any questions?
[sheila] 10:13
pm: Sir, will You or are You, going to cover how to deal
with the 'plateau' at another time?
[CJsHere] 10:13
pm: Oliver, Anthony, WB, RB, anything you'd like to add
to the topic this evening?
[CJsHere] 10:14
pm: nods, I can do that sheila,
[WinterBorn]
10:14 pm: thanks CJ, but I can't think of anything to add
[RB0629] 10:14
pm: Not at the moment
[Ladyoliver]
10:14 pm: I agree, you covered it nicely.
[CJsHere] 10:15
pm: nods, okay, a reminder, if you haven't signed up as a
paid member to the site, we'd love to have ya do so.. don't forget,
invite a friend,,,, we'd love to have them as well. and now, for a
quick story that honestly and truly happened,, and I laugh each and
every time I think about it,, it's called reality, and perception,,,
[CJsHere] 10:16
pm: a few years ago, I was traveling across country by
car.. relocating from the West coast, to the East Coast,, it was one
of those unhurried trips.. killing time, enjoying the scenery, at
that time, I was traveling with two slaves. One was in
her late 30's, one was barely 21.
[CJsHere] 10:17
pm: one afternoon, tired of driving, we stopped, figured
we'd camp out, yes, we had camping equipment with us, so wasn't a
problem, we stopped mid afternoon when we saw a sign for a
campground,,
[CJsHere] 10:18
pm: pulled in, and promptly became "campers".. well, camp
ground was pretty empty,, read that, we were the only ones there,
out in the middle of nowhere, but, it was a nice place..
[CJsHere] 10:19 pm: we pretty much did our
thing, nature walk, went swimming, enjoying ourselves,, well,
walking around the place, we found this little "for sale sign".. It
seems that the campground was "for sale".. hmm,
[CJsHere] 10:19 pm: Next morning we got up, and
instead of continuing on,, we decided to stay for an extra day, to
try to research, get a bit more information about the place, after
all.. a campground, hmmm, why not,
[CJsHere] 10:20
pm: remember, this place is out in the boonies, nothing
but corn fields
[CJsHere] 10:21
pm: well, that night, we were sitting around the
campfire, and sure enough, there was a rather large old tree there,,
and we began to discuss this tree.. lol. standing the girls up.
stretching their arms to the branches,
[CJsHere] 10:21
pm: yes, that's about the right size,,, so, of course, we
jokingly made some comments about that tree.. hmm, I can think of
some uses for it,, lol.
[CJsHere] 10:22
pm: well, morning came, we finally found out who owned
the campground, put an offer in on the campground, and made
arrangements to buy the place.. We continued on to our
destination planning on returning about 45 days later to begin our
new Campground adventure..
[CJsHere] 10:22
pm: so... time passed,, we came back,
[CJsHere] 10:23 pm: here I am, I arrived with
Myself and two slaves,,,, We arrived at the prearranged time, we
pulled into the campground,,,,,,,,,,,, to our surprise, there was
the local minister, and damn near the whole town, waiting on our
arrival!
[goodgirl_MA]
10:23 pm: sits on the edge of her seat
[CJsHere] 10:24 pm: you see, the word had been
spread,, this very religious couple had bought the place, obviously
we were religious, you see, we had been observed more than once, as
a family, there under the tree, with our arms outstretched to God,
obviously in prayer,
[CJsHere] 10:24
pm: so, the whole "family, Dad, Mom and daughter" were
there to join the community,,
[brite-] 10:24
pm: mmmmmmm well kind of sort of .............maybe lol
[new_seeking]
10:24 pm: ROFL !!
[RB0629] 10:25
pm: awkward!!!
[CJsHere] 10:25
pm: oiy, I never laughed so hard when the Minister told
us we had been seen, and not to worry about hiding our faith,,
[Lenwe*s_aja]
10:25 pm: ~laughing hard~
[CJsHere] 10:25
pm: and yes, that really happened, in a little town in
Iowa,
[CJsHere] 10:25
pm: okay, with that, reality,, last call, any questions?
[CJsHere] 10:26
pm: anyone else have any comments?
[goodgirl_MA]
10:26 pm: nope not from this girl
[CJsHere] 10:26
pm: anything to add?
[babydoll0629]
10:26 pm: OMG
[brite-] 10:26
pm: gets camping gear ready hehe
[sheila] 10:26
pm: lol
[CJsHere] 10:27
pm: and now, with that floors open . :) and I'll hush up.
[goodgirl_MA]
10:27 pm: lol
[CJsHere] 10:27
pm: thanks all for joining us this evening,
.
