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Weekly Topic/Class/Discussion Notes - Sunday, February 14, 2010

Sunday February 14, 2010

Self Worth - Taking Responsibility - Knowing and Accepting Yourself

[CJsHere] 9:06 pm: once again, I appreciate everyone turning out for “class” this evening. As some of you may know, it’s been a long day today, so bear with Me if My typing or spelling aren’t up to speed.
[fire_SB] 9:06 pm: quietly comes in...takes her place in the corner on her fur
[CJsHere] 9:07 pm: A couple of administrative notes if I may. First, if you still haven’t signed up for membership on the Asj site, I really urge you considering doing so. For this site to exist, I need your support. It really isn’t all that expensive, but every little bit helps to offset the cost.
[CJsHere] 9:07 pm: Next issue, there are some changes coming this week in some of the software, they should be transparent to you, however, it requires My manually going into each and ever member record to update them. If for any reason you ever have a problem logging into the site
[CJsHere] 9:08 pm: Don’t hesitate to click any of the “ask live” icons located on almost all pages of the Asj website.
[CJsHere] 9:08 pm: Next, a couple of links for you.. first one,, we’re going to be talking about this page a bit in class this evening.
[CJsHere] 9:10 pm: The next link I want to give you.. http://www.asubmissivesjourney.com/room_conduct.html if you haven’t read this one, this was posted today and reflects a “discussion” that was had this afternoon. If you weren't there, or haven't read this YOU REALLY NEED TO If you’ve got questions about it, ask,,
[CJsHere] 9:10 pm: I’ll give every one about another two minutes to read the links, and we’ll get started..
[Lobby]: sgpet has entered at 9:12 pm
[kittycat] 9:12 pm: Sir CJ...trying to bring the site from the afternoon up..I can't?
[CJsHere] 9:12 pm: evening pet, and welcome, you're just in time,
[sgpet] 9:12 pm: Hello Sir CJ
[kittycat] 9:12 pm: evening sgpet
[rachael] 9:13 pm: hello sgpet
[sgpet] 9:13 pm: Hello LovingDom Sir
[new_seeking] 9:13 pm: Sir CJ.....this girl still can't access Forums.....says i must have a subscription....which i do.
[sgpet] 9:13 pm: Hello MrBrink Sir
[CJsHere] 9:13 pm: okay, I'll cut and paste the last two comments for pets benefit, then we'll get started.
[fire_SB] 9:13 pm: no fire can't get in either
[fire_SB] 9:13 pm: did earlier
[fire_SB] 9:13 pm: doesn't work now
[CJsHere] 9:13 pm: Next, a couple of links for you.. first one,, we’re going to be talking about this page a bit in class this
...evening. If you haven’t read this page, please take a moment to do so. http://www.asubmissivesjourney.com/the_awakening.html
[sgpet] 9:14 pm: Hi Sir Grimmytimes
[CJsHere] 9:14 pm: The next link I want to give you.. http://www.asubmissivesjourney.com/room_conduct.html  if you haven’t
...read this one, this was posted today and reflects a “discussion” that was had this afternoon. If you weren't there, or
...haven't read this YOU REALLY NEED TO If you’ve got questions about it, ask,,
[CJsHere] 9:14 pm: okay, shall we see where we end up.. smiles..
[sub4u] 9:14 pm: Sir CJ, i can't get thesecond link to open, Sir.
[CJsHere] 9:14 pm: wow, if you read that page,, what on earth is a page like that doing on a D/s website?
[rachael] 9:14 pm: i cant eaither Sir
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:14 pm: http://www.asubmissivesjourney.com/room_conduct.html
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:14 pm: try that
[CJsHere] 9:14 pm: http://www.asubmissivesjourney.com/room_conduct.html
[new_seeking] 9:15 pm: hello sgpet
[fire_SB] 9:15 pm: that works
[CJsHere] 9:15 pm: must have been a typo... lol
[Lobby]: rachael has left at 9:15 pm
[fire_SB] 9:15 pm: thanks dream
[kittycat] 9:15 pm: Oh my....I love that tiger................
[Lobby]: rachael has entered at 9:15 pm
[fire_SB] 9:15 pm: looks at SirCJ.....
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:15 pm: no problem, fire
[rachael] 9:15 pm: permission to leave for a second i have lines
[CJsHere] 9:15 pm: nods.
[CJsHere] 9:15 pm: pauses for about 30 seconds.
[Lobby]: rachael has left at 9:15 pm
[Lobby]: rachael has entered at 9:16 pm
[CJsHere] 9:16 pm: Anyone care to take a shot at it,,,, that page, narrow it down to one sentence? tell Me what that article is saying?
[CJsHere] 9:16 pm: kitty, fire, dream? any ideas?
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:16 pm: Always accept yourself as you are?
[CJsHere] 9:17 pm: nods,, Good one GT,, any others?
[fire_SB] 9:17 pm: self worth
[rachael] 9:17 pm: nothing is perfict and when you relize that you will be happy
[CJsHere] 9:17 pm: nods, excellent fire,,
[small one] 9:17 pm: know yourself
[CJsHere] 9:17 pm: uh huh, good one rachael and small..
[kittycat] 9:18 pm: sorry..was still reading it
[kittycat] 9:18 pm: you take responsibility for yourself
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:18 pm: accepting yourself as you are, flaws and all
[sgpet] 9:18 pm: im sorry, i seem to be having computer problems... i will try to log back in later
[Lobby]: sgpet has left at 9:19 pm
[CJsHere] 9:19 pm: stretching a bit over one sentence, could you say that it says "take one step at a time,, you're who you are, accept that and move on? Realize there isn't a magic wishing well to make all your dreams come true.. you can't sit back and expect someone to do everything for you? do those things seem to fit?
[small one] 9:19 pm: yes Sir
[fire_SB] 9:20 pm: thinks that is a run on sentence....but ok...:D
[CJsHere] 9:20 pm: but wait,, scratching My head,, isn't this a D/s site, and aren't we talking about having Dom's to do all those things? If that's the case, what gives with this posting?
[Lobby]: celticwarrior has entered at 9:20 pm
[small one] 9:20 pm: no Other can do FOR you only WITH you
[CJsHere] 9:20 pm: any ideas?
[CJsHere] 9:21 pm: ahh, a good point small one,, (fire, can you give cw those two links in PM,, thanx)
[kittycat] 9:21 pm: It still comes down to how you feel about yourself
[fire_SB] 9:21 pm: it starts with ones self.....
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:21 pm: if you do not accept yourself and at least believe you are cappable of achieving your own happyness you will never find it with anyone else.
[Lobby]: celticwarrior has left at 9:21 pm
[CJsHere] 9:21 pm: wow, some good points,, do you think those are true? or is that posting a bunch of hooey?
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:22 pm: absolutely tru (in my opinion)
[kittycat] 9:22 pm: Of course it is true Sir CJ....your own self worth is needed to carry forward in life
[fire_SB] 9:22 pm: how can you please someone else....if you can't please...or aren't pleased with yourself?
[CJsHere] 9:23 pm: Yeowzers... you mean as a Dom,, I'm not gonna have the opportunity, or be required to give input, guidance or direction on all those things?
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:23 pm: no.. but without somewhere to start you will remain totaly lost.
[CJsHere] 9:24 pm: hmm,, a place to start,
[small one] 9:24 pm: well, unless Dom also means psychic, how can you guide what remains hidden or unacknowledged?
[fire_SB] 9:24 pm: thinks a Dom will always be required to give input
[kittycat] 9:24 pm: of course she will need guidance...input..direction...
[CJsHere] 9:24 pm: a first step so to speak,,
[kittycat] 9:24 pm: she will want that
[rachael] 9:24 pm: a Dom can always help but you have to want to be helped first
[small one] 9:24 pm: a sub must be able to express her true self to her Dom
[CJsHere] 9:25 pm: the first step in building a D/s relationship is essentially that you have to have something to build a D/s relationship around?
[rachael] 9:25 pm: they cant help you if you dont want to help yourself
[CJsHere] 9:25 pm: is that a fair statement?
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:25 pm: indeed
[fire_SB] 9:25 pm: yes Sir
[small one] 9:25 pm: yes Sir
[CJsHere] 9:25 pm: hmmm, so, throw out the door mat scenario... I guess a good sub/slave wouldn't make a good doormat..
[kittycat] 9:26 pm: Oh I have always hated that word..
[ [GRIMYTIMES84] 9:26 pm: unless that is where the sub/slave finds their own happiness
[kittycat] 9:26 pm: in being a doormat?
[fire_SB] 9:26 pm: growls
[small one->fire_SB] 9:26 pm: yw
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:27 pm: no...i can't imagine a scenario where being a doormat would make someone happy
[kittycat] 9:27 pm: But, it may be what she sees herself as..
[small one] 9:27 pm: <curling up on rug next to fire>
[fire_SB] 9:27 pm: pats the fur beside her
[kittycat] 9:28 pm: But she is not happy
[kittycat] 9:28 pm: she cannot be happy
[CJsHere] 9:28 pm: so, if I am to interpet the intent of that article, posted on a D/s site,, essentially, what I would interpret that as meaning,,,,
[kittycat] 9:28 pm: She is a woman...not a doormat
[fire_SB] 9:29 pm: a doomat has no feelings.......emotions
[CJsHere] 9:29 pm: a Dom isn't really interested in something that could care less about themself, someone that has no desires, no goals, no dreams, no hopes?
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:29 pm: true (again in my opinion)
[kittycat] 9:29 pm: I hate to say this, but it is possible some Dom's would want that..
[fire_SB] 9:29 pm: yes Sir.....agreed
[kittycat] 9:30 pm: and that is a horrible thing to say
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:30 pm: agreed, Sir
[sub4u] 9:30 pm: yes Sir
[rachael] 9:30 pm: yes Sir
[small one] 9:30 pm: yes Sir
[CJsHere] 9:30 pm: hmm, kitty, let Me get you to think about that statement for a moment,
[fire_SB] 9:30 pm: fire hopes that....that is NOT what You want Sir
[CJsHere] 9:30 pm: think hard,, do you think a real Dom would want that,, or a player would settle for it?
[kittycat] 9:31 pm: I am sorry to say that..
[kittycat] 9:31 pm: A real Dom would not want that
[kittycat] 9:31 pm: But there are different types of Doms out there..
[small one] 9:31 pm: key term - real Dom
[kittycat] 9:31 pm: Yes..real Dom
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:32 pm: thats what i was thinking small one
[CJsHere] 9:32 pm: nods, I quite agree ,, but, that ties in a bit to a conversation that we had here recently, on the subject of how you tell a real Dom for a player or onlne troll.
[fire_SB] 9:32 pm: real...=true=honest Dominant
[sub4u] 9:32 pm: agrees with fire
[CJsHere] 9:33 pm: I think one of the examples that was used, everyone, even your pet dog has some dominant traits, even a slave has dominant traits if you look for them, but, to really be a Dom in the context we're hoping for or talknig about.. would that kind of Dom be a dom you were looking for, the one that really craved a doormat?
[small one] 9:34 pm: a real Dom , of any kind, is not looking for an inanimate object ...of any kind
[kittycat] 9:34 pm: No. I would not wish to be with that kind of Dom
[small one] 9:34 pm: imho
[fire_SB] 9:34 pm: true small
[fire_SB] 9:34 pm: pats small on the back
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:34 pm: speaking for myself i would say that that resembles nothing of what i would like to be as a dom...
[small one] 9:34 pm: cookie fire?
[CJsHere] 9:34 pm: anyone here think they'd want to be with that kind of Dom?
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:34 pm: Dom*
[small one] 9:34 pm: no Sir
[sub4u] 9:35 pm: no Sir
[rachael] 9:35 pm: no Sir
[kittycat] 9:35 pm: NO Sir
[fire_SB] 9:35 pm: spews to think so....
[fire_SB] 9:35 pm: smiles at small...what kind?
[kittycat] 9:35 pm: Please forgive me if I speak out of line sometimes....I just spill the words out
[CJsHere] 9:35 pm: then I guess we could unanimously agree, that the description of a Dom, at least in our eyes, does not include someone that only wants a doormat.
[small one] 9:35 pm: any - always hungry
[sub4u] 9:36 pm: correct Sir
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:36 pm: agrees
[kittycat] 9:36 pm: I agree
[rachael] 9:36 pm: yes Sir
[fire_SB] 9:36 pm: agrees
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:36 pm: i agree as well
[Lobby]: CJsHere has left at 9:36 pm
[small one] 9:36 pm: agreed Sir
[fire_SB] 9:37 pm: will never fit the doormat senario
[Lobby]: CJsHere has entered at 9:37 pm
[sub4u] 9:37 pm: wb Sir
[CJsHere] 9:37 pm: grrrr... now the puter is mad at Me,
[sub4u] 9:37 pm: lol
[CJsHere] 9:37 pm: sorry, I got booted,
[rachael] 9:37 pm: lol
[fire_SB] 9:37 pm: checks Sir's tush for bootmarks....:D.....nice view....
[CJsHere] 9:37 pm: let Me retype what I had just typed, I don't think it went thru.
[rachael] 9:38 pm: lol fire
[kittycat] 9:38 pm: fire:)
[small one] 9:38 pm: oh fire!
[sub4u] 9:38 pm: lmao fire
[CJsHere] 9:38 pm: let's twist things around just a bit,, do you think that posting is essentially saying, be strong, be self supportive,, ?
[fire_SB] 9:38 pm: laughs.....
[kittycat] 9:39 pm: Sir..can you rephrase that? Not sure what you are asking?
[fire_SB] 9:39 pm: sure....you have to be able to stand on your own feet sometimes
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:39 pm: yes... to a point. Without that to start with you have nothing realy to offer if you cant initialy support yourself how can you give yourself?
[small one] 9:39 pm: right - what do you have to give?
[sub4u] 9:39 pm: true Sir GT
[kittycat] 9:40 pm: ??I'm confused:)
[CJsHere] 9:40 pm: nods, esentially it's sayng accept yourself for who you are, start working on changing things that need to be changed, don't wait for others to change you.. be self supportive in those areas, (is what I meant)
[fire_SB] 9:40 pm: agrees
[kittycat] 9:40 pm: Okay..the posting was what confused me...got it
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:41 pm: yes, agreed
[CJsHere] 9:41 pm: everyone pretty much agree with that?
[kittycat] 9:41 pm: Yes
[fire_SB] 9:41 pm: and yes....W/we all need help....and others ... guidance.....
[small one] 9:41 pm: yes Sir
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:41 pm: yes
[sub4u] 9:41 pm: yes Sir
[rachael] 9:41 pm: yes Sir
[jazmin] 9:41 pm: yes Sir
[small one] 9:41 pm: also agree with fire
[CJsHere] 9:41 pm: hmm, the contradiction there, and here I thought it was the D/s lifestyle and Dom's had to come running in, telling a girl what to do , what to change,,
[CJsHere] 9:42 pm: okay, let's freeze our thoughts on that for a moment or two, let's reach into our brains and pull out a blank page for a moment,,
[fire_SB] 9:43 pm: isn't hard...for fire's brain to be blank
[small one] 9:43 pm: this girl's a complete blank!
[sub4u] 9:43 pm: lmao fire
[rachael] 9:43 pm: fire you can borrow mine again if you'd like
[fire_SB] 9:43 pm: lol....thanks rach
[CJsHere] 9:43 pm: as a sub/slave, we know we've got issues, hell everyone does, why should you be different? Maybe it's your indecisive, maybe you need to lose weight, maybe you just feel lost without someone guiding you, maybe your looking for the love you hope a D/s relationship will bring, hell, maybe you're just plain horny..
[rachael] 9:44 pm: np fire
[CJsHere] 9:44 pm: and I think everyone would agree, Dom/sub/slave, we've all got issues, all got areas we could improve,
[kittycat] 9:44 pm: Many...
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:44 pm: everyone does
[small one] 9:44 pm: agreed Sir
[fire_SB] 9:44 pm: agrees
[sub4u] 9:45 pm: yes Sir
[rachael] 9:45 pm: agreed Sir
[CJsHere] 9:46 pm: ahh, so now let's merge the two together, , see how the pieces fit,
[sub4u] 9:46 pm: yes Sir
[fire_SB] 9:46 pm: hopes she didn't loose any puzzle pieces...hates that
[CJsHere] 9:46 pm: on the one hand, we've got this paper that says be strong, fend for yourself.. on the other hand, heck we got issues and we want help..
[kittycat] 9:46 pm: fire:)
[rachael] 9:46 pm: lmao fire
[CJsHere] 9:47 pm: what's wrong with that?
[small one] 9:47 pm: nothing Sir
[kittycat] 9:47 pm: Nothing wrong with that...sometimes hard to reach out and ask for help though
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:47 pm: but in understanding and accepting your "issues" makes it easier to reach out and find help with what you want/need to fix.
[rachael] 9:47 pm: agrees with kitty
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:47 pm: it's okay to let others help you with problems you're having...it's impossible to do everything alone even if you are self-reliant
[kittycat] 9:47 pm: thank you rachael
[fire_SB] 9:47 pm: agrees with Sir GT
[CJsHere] 9:48 pm: NOTHING,,,,, that's correct! Sure, the paper says, help yourself where you can... "where you can, if you can",, but it doesn't say reach out and ask for help, assistance or guidance,,,
[CJsHere] 9:48 pm: but it doesn't say you can't reach out!!!!
[CJsHere] 9:48 pm: that reaching out can in fact be part of helping yourself...
[CJsHere] 9:49 pm: does that makes sense?
[fire_SB] 9:49 pm: yes Sir
[small one] 9:49 pm: yes Sir
[jazmin] 9:49 pm: yes it does Sir
[sub4u] 9:49 pm: yes Sir, it does!
[fire_SB] 9:49 pm: acceptance of what you need help with.....and asking for help is a BIG step
[dreamtheirsleep] 9:49 pm: yes, Sir
[Lobby]: celticwarrior has entered at 9:50 pm
[celticwarrior] 9:50 pm: wow big party in here
[fire_SB] 9:50 pm: class celtic
[CJsHere] 9:50 pm: Sometimes, as a Dom I sit here and I see what appears to be girl after girl come walking thru the door with this image in her mind that her she is, she's a sub/slave,, that's it,, never has to do another think until someone says on your knees, take notes, this is what you'll do,,
[celticwarrior] 9:50 pm: ahh
[fire_SB] 9:50 pm: hugs
[CJsHere] 9:51 pm: it just ain't so, that's not how it is,
[CJsHere] 9:51 pm: and anyone that tells you it is,, is nuts!
[CJsHere] 9:52 pm: so many girls have the impression that when they go to the D/s lifestyle, they have to check their brains at the door.
[GRIMYTIMES84] 9:53 pm: doesnt want a mindless zombie
[fire_SB] 9:53 pm: smiles at Sir GT
[CJsHere] 9:53 pm: so, bottom line here, if you've heard that, and think that is reality, back up,, grab your brain, reactivate it and come back in here..
[sub4u] 9:53 pm: agrees with Sir GT
[celticwarrior] 9:54 pm: wants to eat humans!!!!!! uuuuugggggghhhhhhh
[rachael] 9:54 pm: you okay there celtic?
[CJsHere] 9:54 pm: I dont think many would want to admit it, but I'm sure, if you look at the list of those here, some of you were under that misguided impression,,, and that's okay, we've got it corrected now.
[small one] 9:54 pm: question please Sir?
[CJsHere] 9:54 pm: sure small one,
[small one] 9:55 pm: Would You say SIr that Geisha is a good example of sub?
[fire_SB] 9:55 pm: listens
[CJsHere] 9:55 pm: listens.
[celticwarrior] 9:55 pm: CRAP may i be excused for a moment Sir?
[CJsHere] 9:55 pm: Geisha, or a Geisha?
[CJsHere] 9:55 pm: nods to cw..
[CJsHere] 9:55 pm: as in the japaneese Geisha?
[small one] 9:55 pm: a Geisha
[small one] 9:55 pm: yes Sir
[fire_SB] 9:55 pm: laughs
[CJsHere] 9:56 pm: (making sure she wasn't referring to a name)
[kittycat] 9:56 pm: :)
[CJsHere] 9:56 pm: hmm, how to answer that,, first, let's clarify what we're talking about when we say geisha,,
[CJsHere] 9:57 pm: if you talk to a GI that has served in the far east in the last decade or so, they'll think of a geisah as a whore or prostitute,, a high paid call girl. but,
[small one] 9:57 pm: dedication to the lifestyle in which she provides companionship on all levels
[small one] 9:57 pm: sorry Sir
[CJsHere] 9:58 pm: if you go back,, look at what the geisha truly is,, what the lifestyle of the asians prepares them for, then yes, in many ways, a geisha is a good example of a sub,, but there are some big differnces,, and exceptions.
[CJsHere] 9:59 pm: the differences, the geisha yes, while she is there to please a man,, more often than not, that geisha was there to please in either a sexual, or as a companion manner,, her chores, tasks, responsibilities did not/does not include much of anything beyond physical comfort or companionship.
[CJsHere] 10:00 pm: more often than not, she's an outcall,, not actually in the home,, the sub/slave, is generally thought of as in the home,, does that make sense?
[small one] 10:00 pm: yes Sir
[CJsHere] 10:01 pm: But,, for what it's worth, the asian woman, her upbringing, their customs, traditions, are the most submissive oriented femalse in the world..
[CJsHere] 10:01 pm: (as a rule..)
[fire_SB] 10:01 pm: submissive sexually???
[CJsHere] 10:02 pm: submissive, sexually, emotionaly, psycholgically, physically,
[fire_SB] 10:02 pm: only in that reference???
[fire_SB] 10:02 pm: understands
[celticwarrior] 10:02 pm: bacj
[CJsHere] 10:03 pm: about the only ones that I can think of more submissive than them as a culture, "might" be the Omish women in regions of Pennsylvania,, but their submissiveness extends only within their cultural boundaries.
[CJsHere] 10:03 pm: hope that answers the question small one.
[small one] 10:04 pm: yes Sir thank You
[CJsHere] 10:04 pm: okay, to try to sum the last hour up in to a couple of sentences,,,,
[fire_SB] 10:04 pm: gives small all the cookies in the house....since this one isn't eating any more
[small one] 10:04 pm: yay!
[CJsHere] 10:05 pm: what we've talked about,, to be a sub/slave doesn't mean you're a mindless anomea,, you are still a woman with a brain,,,
[kittycat] 10:05 pm: thank god!
[fire_SB] 10:05 pm: or male
[kittycat] 10:05 pm: :)
[CJsHere] 10:05 pm: to be a sub/slave doesn't mean you give up on everything you want/need/do until the right Dom comes along.
[fire_SB] 10:05 pm: :)
[CJsHere] 10:06 pm: (and yes, this extends to male sub/slaves as well. and I've apologized more than once already to cw for my usual lumping of all sub/slaves into the female category)
[fire_SB] 10:06 pm: ;)
[celticwarrior] 10:06 pm: its quite alright Sir
[GRIMYTIMES84] 10:06 pm: i have to admit CJ that was a great help in clearifying some of the cloudy areas i had about sub's
[CJsHere] 10:07 pm: we've also said or decided that a Dom, if He's really a Dom, isn't interested in owning, wanting or having a mindless doormat.
[sub4u] 10:07 pm: correct Sir
[celticwarrior] 10:08 pm: brb baby
[celticwarrior] 10:08 pm: oops
[CJsHere] 10:08 pm: we've agreed that just because a girl hasn't solved all of her problems, or needs some help and guidance, that doesn't she hasn't tried, or that she's any less of a person because she doesn't have all the answers.
[celticwarrior] 10:08 pm: wrong window
[fire_SB] 10:08 pm: lol
[celticwarrior] 10:08 pm: thats awkward
[small one] 10:08 pm: giggle
[rachael] 10:08 pm: ll
[rachael] 10:08 pm: lol*
[sub4u] 10:08 pm: lol
[small one] 10:08 pm: yes SIr
[celticwarrior] 10:09 pm: request permission to leave for a moment
[fire_SB] 10:09 pm: rolls on the floor at celtic
[GRIMYTIMES84] 10:09 pm: go ahead cw
[CJsHere] 10:09 pm: and yes, once a Dom takes a girl, within the confines or limits of that relationship, the Dom can/will/may alter things within the girls way of doing things as appropriate for that relationship..
[sub4u] 10:09 pm: yes Sir
[small one] 10:09 pm: yes SIr
[CJsHere] 10:09 pm: okay, with that summary,, questions, comments,, issues?
[kittycat] 10:09 pm: Yes Sir
[small one] 10:10 pm: RL GTG night A/all!
[Lobby]: small one has left at 10:10 pm
[kittycat] 10:11 pm: wow
[CJsHere] 10:11 pm: well, I guess hearing no questions or comments,, I've pretty much either covered it, or have every one thoroughly confused.
[sub4u] 10:11 pm: lol Sir
[kittycat] 10:11 pm: Not confused...and I am sure many questions will arise...
[fire_SB] 10:11 pm: been a long day in asj Sir
[GRIMYTIMES84] 10:11 pm: i think you pretty much covered it and now serious thought proccess's set in :)
[new_seeking] 10:11 pm: fine here Sir :)
[kittycat] 10:12 pm: and requesting help
[CJsHere] 10:12 pm: I hope some of the points that were raised here this evening may have helped to clear up some of the questions I seem to have been asked today.
[kittycat] 10:12 pm: Thank you Sir CJ
[sub4u] 10:12 pm: yes Sir
[GRIMYTIMES84] 10:12 pm: thx CJ
[sub4u] 10:12 pm: thank-You Sir!
[rachael] 10:12 pm: thank you Sir
[new_seeking] 10:13 pm: Thank You Sir CJ
[fire_SB] 10:13 pm: hopes all the girls are much more comforted and feel more confident about what the lifestyle is about
[CJsHere] 10:13 pm: so with that, we'll call this discussion a wrap,,
[kittycat] 10:13 pm: permission to leave Sir?
[fire_SB] 10:14 pm: bye kitty....hugs
[GRIMYTIMES84] 10:14 pm: yes kitty .... goodnight
[CJsHere] 10:14 pm: nods to all that need/want to depart,, thanks for joining us today,,
[dreamtheirsleep] 10:14 pm: bye kitty

 

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