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From: eden«C»  (Original Message) Sent: 1/28/2002 8:02 AM

Hello E/everyone. I am new to this community and still very new to the lifestyle of D/s. My Domme and I started out online as friends over a year and a half ago. Even met over that period of time *as friends*. Six months ago we talked and in the talking She and I discovered that I was a submissive. Which I had always felt but couldn't put my finger on it. Wow what a rush... Wow someone that *knows* per se things that I didn't know exactly what were. The feelings thoughts etc that it envoked within me. OK, sorry that sounds like babbling. We talked allot more over that time and I have been reading and reading all that I can. Fast forward to here and now, we are living together. It's real time now. *lol* Well, all that said and done. I found it easy to be sub online much easier than I am finding it to sub r/l. My question is this I guess. What could be a reason that a sub hesitates to submit???

She feels my hesitancy comes from lack of confidence in Her. Since it has been some years since She has lived the lifestyle She even offered to see a professional if it would make me feel better. Then when I read the mentoring post... I thought perhaps Her and I should both consider that.

On another note, I am even struggling with negotiations... Especially the punishment negotiations. *sigh*

Would love to hear O/others thoughts.

eden«C»


 
From: DaddysSpankiGirl Sent: 1/28/2002 8:34 AM
Could be any number of reasons, and i'm sure you'll get lots of armchair psychologists' advice to your post. Here's just something to think about ... i've known a LOT of *online* Dom/Domme and subs who love the emotional intensity of the online power exchange.  they get caught up in the depth of it all, the breadth of it all, it is such a rich garden and it provides many things that might be missing in their *real* lives.  then comes that fateful day ... when the sub believes s/he is ready to make it all real. s/he has met the *right* Dom/Domme to lead them to that place they think they need to be.  but, for *some reason* they just can't sub in r/t like they could online. hmmm some things are better left to fantasy ... as *real* as they may seem and feel, sometimes they just are not.  that doesn't make them any less powerful, they just need to flourish in the *fantasy world* and evoke *real life* feelings but not real life physical actions.  again .. just one perspective to ponder.  i'll be interested in all the many many pieces of advice you'll receive here on the board.  best wishes to you    xoxo
   
From: selene Sent: 1/29/2002 2:11 AM
Welcome to the real world (pun intended!). Actually, I'm really glad you posted this. I get crawled, on a regular basis for trying to get through to people that 'online-only' is VASTLY different than real life.
 
As for advice, take it slowly. Negotiating appropriate punishment is never easy, regardless of how long you've been around. Trust takes time to build in all relationships. Finding a mentor is not a bad idea, nor would finding a 'kink-friendly' relationship counselor.
 
I wish you success and happiness,
selene

 
From: Dreamer_§dream§ Sent: 1/30/2002 2:40 AM
Hello, Wanted to add My two cents here smiles*. We also met online and are now r.l. It is so very different! Where once online I got such respect from her now in r.l 24/ 7 it is somewhat different.LOL. It is reallife that is different. Kids work illnesses stress and no shutting the computer down and walking away. The first thing I realised was the trust. Was it there? No. This is one of the key elements. Realising this I also realised that it will and does take time and alot of hard work within to begin to learn to completely trust another even though your deeply in love. As a Domme I had to step back and take a long look at U/us and then began to work hard to gain the trust that is needed. As for the negotiations of consequences and punishments same thing. Sometimes you have to start off with very small ones and work up as you grow into the lifestyle. An essay or some sentences or 3 minutes in the corner just little ones to begin. Why rush this when you have a lifetime togehter. Becoming close friends and lovers is the first priority and working slowly towards similar goals in this lifestyle together as O/one. Don't be so hard on yourself hun. All good things come in time. Don't rush. Be good to yourself.
Just My opinions. MistressDreamer§dream§

 
From: eden«C» Sent: 2/6/2002 10:44 AM

Thank Y/you A/all for Y/your responses. The input is much appreciated. It has been decided some things will be on hold for the time being.

 

eden«C»


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